You loudcaster stations can be played on your Roku I have one. You can either be played via tunein Radio or Shoutcast by adding one of those channels to your list. I've used Tunein and had good luck receiving my station on The Roku. If not look for Loudcaster - Your Station on the Shoutcast channel.

If you want a fast way to purchase the Roku, or Logetech Squeezebox just head to http://thelegacyradio.com and look for the text link or banner ad. This will help those who want devices to receive Internet Radio in their living room.

You are half right. Roku nor Squeezebox doesn't support AAC streams...therefore we cannot be heard on Roku.

We don't pay extra to be listed in the Shoutcast directory but that's irrelevant in this case since Roku won't support our AAC stream. Kind of a bummer...we don't want our audio quality to suffer by having a 64 mp3 stream.

I personal don't feel that roku or squeezebox are that reliable anyway. I think smartphones and tablets are the thing to go. ACC is a good format but MP3 more wide recieved that ACC

I'm ready concidering dropping the shoutcast listing soon.

I personally recommend that broadcasters utilize the second encoder and set that as an mp3 encoder. While the AAC stream delivers superior sound quality, mp3 is compatible with several streaming devices and directories. My most popular stream is still the 64k mp3. Just my opinion.

Reaper...do you know how "encoder 1" is used? Is the AACP stream on the first encoder the stream on the LC page?

I may just change our 2nd encoder over to MP3, but I want to make sure I know where the AACP stream goes first...

I would not kill your Shoutcast listing for some Smartphones don't do well with Tunein. My droid does way better using XiaaLiveLite and listening to my 32K AAC+ stream than it does with the 64K Mp3 one due to the fact that in Elizabeth City you don't get 4G using T-Mobile (sad). US Cellular does a little better but their service does not have many Droids and US Cellular refuses to activate an unlocked phone.

As for Mp3 stream the 64K one doesn't do badly as I experimented and told Brandon to set the sample rate to 22 Khz and it sounds better than 44.1 Khz did. But as always 128K will always be the Audiophile standard and on my Progressive Rock station I got complaints on the Rockline about the 64K stream. 32K AAC+ is closer to 96K Mp3 and still is lackluster in Audiophile standards. Unless you play Classical music, Easy Listening, Old Country or Progressive Rock you may get away with it without complaints. You can also fiddle with the EQ settings in SAM when you don't have many listeners to try and compensate for the lower bitrate. I set my settings to Rock but turned down the overdrive to 2DB and it gives a little base boost and yet doesn't make my station sound like a Rap oriented station. This compensates for the ringing sound you hear with the lower bitrate. Its not perfact, but helps and some of my more picky listeners said my station is now doable to them.

I think more important than bitrate is rather your internet connection is stable enough to handle your broadcast without flip flopping from your station to AutoDJ now that is what will make you lose listeners in a hurry and they may never come back. Always get the fastest Internet you can get for your area. Upload speed is what you need to worry about here.

@koshermetal the 1st encoder is your main encoder and is either 24k or 32k AAC+. This encoder cannot be changed to mp3.

@reaper Would that be the "SD" stream on the LC page?

@koshermetal you are correct. That shows up only if the second encoder is set to 64k AAC+. It will not be available if the second encoder is set for 64k mp3 :-)

Did the switch last night! Thanks for the help guys. Now, I would assume that "stereo" is best....but has anyone messed with the "mono" setting at all? I'm curious why the option to begin with....

In the beginning the Mp3 64K stream was mono and Oh boy did I get complaints from my listeners. Many said "No way will I listen to a mono stream when listening to something like Led Zeppelin or Genesis. I realize i had the AAC+ stream but really can you imagine the horror? That is why there is the option but the 22K sample rate stops the watery sound or hiss or scratchy sound you would hear if you used Stereo at such a low Mp3 bitrate. This was done during the time I tested the system in the early beta phase.

Our channel got approved as a Public Channel and can now be added via the Roku Channel Store....just an FYI for those that have a Roku.

Here is a link to the press release announcing our relationship with Relapse Records in connection with the Channel: http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=148941

I have gotten one gripe over the mp3 issue. I mean I have no say when it comes to that since Loudcaster only encodes acc+ 32K and mp3 is stuck to 64. even if loudcast began offering 128. there be some that gripe that the bit is still too damn low.

I doubt that for the highest I've seen in most cases in the Shoutcast directory is 128K and that sounds great for Internet Radio. If got little listeners on my Mp3 stream but do get listeners on my 32K AAC+ stream (but then again I'm in iTunes with the 32K) however don't get beyound 21 listeners on iTunes. If we had 128K Mp3 available we'd get more listeners. Don't get me wrong AAC+ sounds good at 32K but you can still hear artifacts when listening to stuff like The Moody Blues, ELO or anything that has mellow passages or string instruments. When speaking sometimes you can hear the lack of high bitrate as well. Drums and symbols have a muffled effect at times as well and can steer the audiophiles away. But this has been brought up in the Beta stage by yours truly as bitrate is a big thing to me. In most cases before I started broadcasting I'd only listen to Radio stations with 128K Mp3 or 64K AAC+.

This has been the only downside to Loudcaster but I think if I remember right Brandon said somewhere (if I am not having a brain cramp) that he may offer 128K sometime later. If so you can watch your listeners rise to new heights. Lets all prey to the Gods of Rock N Roll we get our wish (Just a little fun there).

the minor drawback of 128k is that is can eat up you locker space for your music. I remember back when L365 started offering higher rates that 64K. it also swell up many who have small storage space on there broadcasting plan.

5 gigs of space for 128 tracks will have their library like cut down to size depends on how much stuff they got crammed in.

Remember Loudcaster is not dependent on the input Bitrate for the AutoDJ. Meaning I've uploaded songs @ 320K (Most all my songs are @ 320 some are @ 192K. But Yes Live365 is Input Bitrate dependent meaning if you want to broadcast @ 128K you have to use the Live365 converter and convert all songs to 128K. This is also true for many other Shoutcast and Icecast AutoDJ systems. But Loudcaster uses a Transcoder. so for your AutoDJ you can Upload 64K 22Khz Stereo songs (Although they may not sound as good as your 192K or 320K songs). This is a feature I love about Loudcaster because no other streaming host I know of (licensed or not) offers this.